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Swift's former innovation chief: bank deposit tokens are already live on Swift Ledger
Tom Zschach explains why Swift Ledger doesn't settle, custody or issue tokens, but still lets banks swap stablecoins and deposit tokens cross-border.
AI summary of “Tom Zschach: The Tokenization Supercycle Has Already Started (Deposit Tokens Are Live)”
Key takeaways
- Tom Zschach says the first Swift Ledger workflow, banks paying each other with their own deposit tokens, has gone live.
- He insists Swift Ledger adds an option rather than replacing correspondent banking rails built over 50 years.
- Zschach stresses Swift Ledger does not settle, custody or issue tokens; it only orchestrates transactions between members.
- One leg of a trade can settle at a central bank, the other on chains like Ethereum or Solana, which he calls real-time FX.
- He expects Swift to eventually move into other asset classes now that a tokenized value/payments layer exists.
Deposit tokens go live without ripping up existing rails
Tom Zschach, former Chief Innovation Officer at Swift, describes correspondent banking as a business built on certainty and compliance for large-value, cross-border payments, running on a network connecting 200 countries and more than 40,000 corridors. Against that backdrop, he says the first Swift Ledger workflow, banks paying each other cross-border using their own deposit tokens, "went live just recently." He frames this as additive:
"it's not replacing anything. It's not ripping up rails. It actually makes the network more valuable and more relevant"— Tom Zschach. Any Swift member can choose to use it or keep doing what they have always done.
He also cites a Swift leader's framing from the prior day's event, that the distinction between TradFi and DeFi is dissolving:
"the idea of like tradfi and defi, it's just fi. It's just finance"— Tom Zschach. He points to the roughly one-year gap between the Frankfurt announcement last September and live case studies as a sign of fast, careful delivery "with no cut corners."
What the ledger does and doesn't do, and what comes next
Zschach pushes back on what he calls misconceptions spread by "Ripple armies," saying the signal-to-noise ratio around digital assets is poor. He is explicit that Swift Ledger does not perform settlement, is not a custodian, and does not issue tokens. Instead, it orchestrates transactions: one bank might send a stablecoin, another a tokenized deposit, possibly in different currencies, with settlement decided by the members, either at a central bank or on chains such as Ethereum and Solana. He calls this arrangement "real-time FX."
Looking ahead, Zschach says he is not responsible for Swift's strategy but would not be surprised to see the network extend into other asset classes beyond payments, arguing that money has to be the foundation before anything else can be settled on top of it.
Written by AI from the video's transcript. It can compress, misattribute or miss context — the original video is the source. Not investment advice.
